Referencing the recent Courville et al. 2025 (“Core metamorphism controls the dynamic habitability of mid-sized ocean worlds—The case of Ceres”):
The SETI Live podcast by the SETI Institute will record an episode October 2, 2025, at 2:30 pm PDT. In this episode, Dr. Courville himself will be on hand to discuss the paper, and its implications. Listen in real time, or get it wherever you get your podcasts.